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did freud get massaged?
did freud get massaged? therapy... today i went with my to his therapist. i was halfway between nervous and honored that i'd been invited. turns out my is concerned about my grief. so....it was good that i went. i've had a variety of therapists over the years. my first one was a freudian and never said a flippin' thing. just took notes and nodded a lot. after about 6 months of this, i walked in one day, sat, flipped open my notebook and watched him, nodding sagely every few minutes. finally he broke. "what are you doing" "the same thing you do every week." " i am observing, taking in information, assessing" "but you never say anything" "i listen" "prove it" "how?" "tell me what you know about me so far" he went very quiet. then he took the strategic if somewhat chicken shit way out and told me that this was not a useful dynamic. i sat in silence for the next 31 minutes, noting things in my book, watching him closely. at the end of the session the timer sounded and i stood up and walked out but i left the notebook there. i assume he read it. but who knows? my next therapist was a woman who whispered. if you wanted to hear what she was saying you had to lean in very close. at least a third of every session was taken up with me asking her to repeat what she had just said. control is an interesting thing. it can be useful, even necessary in some situations. but in the therapeutic paradigm, does it hinder progress? years later, when i sought body therapy for some physical issues, i found that the balance in my physical body impacted my mental/emotional state proportionately. i found an energy worker and for the next two years, worked with her alone. i learned more during those two years than i had with all the "therapy" before. part of being who i am, is living too much in my head. for me, being able to "feel" it and process the connections in a non-mental way was extraordinarily useful. when she moved to Texas, i was bereft. she came to visit last weekend and just being able to spend time with her was a gift. on the last night, she gave me a two hour session. it was a very painful one, both physically in moving my blockages and emotionally in accepting my grief. after the session i was very open and shaky........ she curled up with me on my bed and held me while i wept. and then we whispered our secrets to each other. the boundaries are different.....clearly. but what she did for me in those several hours was profound. this isn't to say that a shrink isn't useful. just to say that a human being once opened, is so vulnerable that the little chime to end a session can literally flay the skin. and that being touched with healing and tenderness...well freud be damned............. there's a saying with polarity practitioners - that when you give a session, you get a session - that pretty much says it all. in gratitude to Cynthia... You cannot conceive the many without the one. |
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4/14/2007 10:05 am |
I have seen that I can understand things in my head through talk therapy, but it doesn't really help me move beyond them. I want to work with Cynthia. BPB
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I ain't big on therapy. I figure that I know what makes me tick. I know what motivates me. I know why I'm upset, when I am. If I can't figure out what to do about the things I don't like or that appear to be too much to handle, then someone else is gonna have a freakin' serious problem trying to figure them out for me. My ex went to a "therapist" for three years - before she walked out the door. Of course, I didn't know this, since she felt the need to sneak it OUT of our schedule. I asked her why I was never informed. Her response - "Well, you just didn't care." The "therapist" told her that I was the problem, 'cause I just didn't care. Makes sense - you can't care about something you are unaware of. Since the "therapist" had never met me, whatever my ex wanted to say about me had to be taken at face value. That makes it SO much easier to just put the "blame" for a relationship on one party - when the "patient" is payin' the bill, you certainly can't say... " You know, it takes two to tango." You might lose your meal-ticket. But, then how do you account for someone who creates fantasies in order to provide an avenue of escape from reality? Even if they really do need that avenue. No, I have very little use for therapy - other than Nyquil. Solar...
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4/14/2007 3:33 pm |
If I ever have a therapist I hope I get a Cynthia. I think it was cool and sweet of your son to be concerned and to do something constructive about it... Not all who wander are lost.
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4/15/2007 5:15 am |
For me...choosing a therapist is like choosing a religion....it's what pew do we want to worship at....for some TM is good, for others it's Gestalt...and for still others it's a combination.....It seems that for you....today your need was body work and what it released....glad you found what you needed..... Skier
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4/15/2007 6:55 am |
Don't know about a therapist!! Look at Tony Saprano!! I think I'll take the massage--More for your money!! Be Safe--Bill I came into this world with nothing, and I have most of it left~~
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So true that our mental state is heavily affected by the state our body is in....I remember going to a yoga class a few weeks after my dad died, and during the final relaxation something just cut loose and tears started pouring from my eyes....
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The reason is as simple as this. We have partitioned ourselves into Mind/Body/Soul. There is no truth in this. We are all of those things....they cannot be treated seperately with any real effect because there is no seperation. The very fact that we view these things as seperate; of having more value than another portion of ourselves is to my way of thinking the greatest lie left for humanity to overcome. I am pleased and not unsuprsed that you are aware of this, I just hope for more to become aware of it.*s*
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4/15/2007 2:50 pm |
Ok, So My dad was a therapist, in fact freud was reffered to as "St. Sigmund" around my house. NOt that everything he said was perfect, just that he was a brilliant man. I also worked in a mental health place, so I can play one on TV. DO you in the resturant near where he lived they serve "Jung Peas" (seriously) But you need to find a therapist that fits YOU. There are many styles. Some piss you off, some are very cool and helpful. BUt IN all honesty I have been suggesting to friends in need of such thgins to not waste any time on anyone other than a Psychiatrist, who can prescibe drugs, if need be. Or if you can'd find one you like, a Phd. ANYONE can hang out a shingle and say they are a therapist. The normal way to irritate them off is to answer everything with "how does that make you feel?
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*smiles* I think the body therapy is something I would like to try...it sounds very beneficial...May I ask if that is what it is called is "body therapy"? I am so glad that it helped you..and I agree about the little chime ending the session when you feel raw and out in the open...not a nice feeling at all. *hugs*
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*hugs you tight* Right now i could use some of that therapy....*soft smiles*
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